Around 3:30 p.m. on Friday, a woman was riding the Orange Line when two guys, one white, the other black, got into an argument that escalated with the white guy physically attacking the black one:
The aggressor pushed/threw the victim on top of me as I was sitting and started punching him. My glasses were broken and head scraped in the process. The crowd eventually pulled the aggressor off. I asked bystanders to take pictures of the assaulter, but didn't see anyone doing so, so I (a 5'4" woman) started taking my own closeups. I guess he didn't like that, because he called me a liberal cunt and shouted he was glad it's Trump's America.
Strangely he didn't try to grab my phone though.
He got off at State Street and got away. Meanwhile the victim was busy calling the cops. Out of a train car full of people, I was the only one who stayed to give a statement to the police, and the victim had to call the police himself.
I'm super pissed off, partly for myself but also for the main victim (intended target).
If he looks familiar, contact Transit Police detectives at 617-222-1000.
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Comments
Police report
By anon
Mon, 01/23/2017 - 11:07pm
Did you make sure there was a police report of this, before posting this guys photo.
Reading is hard.
By Nonanon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 1:33am
Reading is hard.
This is the impression I get on the Orange Line
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 3:08pm
Unless there's a lot of JP commuters in your car at the time, if someone messes with you on the Orange Line, you're probably on your own.
Seeing as how
By erik g
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 7:36am
he's advising people to call the Transit Police, and the story explicitly mentions the photographer being the only one to stay with the victim to file a police report, I would venture to say to say yes, there's a police report. Any other concern trolling you want to bring into this, or can we get back to talking about the fact that this is a really fucked up thing to happen, and any halfway decent Trump supporter should be the first to repudiate this asshole?
concern trolling?
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 8:45am
It's a totally valid question, and not phrased in a way that would warrant such an abrasive reply.
"Alternative facts"
By MattyC
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:03am
"Alternative facts"
just think the reply was over the top
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:42am
I get that taking an edgy teenager tone is erik's MO here, but it gets old.
Edgy teenager?
By erik g
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 10:02am
Man, in this thread alone, I've been told I'm a terrorist who should join ISIS, and labeled a Stalinist who supports pogroms against Europeans, but this... this one stings, anon.
I prefer "leftist agitator," but your point is taken.
According to the photo posted...
By Neal
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:43am
It appears that the train that this incident happened on is equipped with cameras (visible on the ceiling in the background). The Transit Police will probably be able to get a better idea as to what happened after the footage is reviewed.
OK.
By dmcboston
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 12:30pm
"and any halfway decent Trump supporter should be the first to repudiate this asshole?"
Hey, I'll be happy to call this asshole out.
Here's the problem. AG posted no links to any site (like he often posts here, but I can see it to preserve her privacy) and I just checked the T site and no recent news (noon). Someone pointed out the camera in the background. So, assuming MBTA Police have a vid, they have a lot of info on what really happened, including maybe the ability to generate some decent stills.
Oh, Neal, just reread your post. Quite correct.
So, until we get more info, we don't know enough about this assault. He might just be a homeless person off his rocker. Or not. Either way, he's a real problem in a confined space.
Patience, grasshopper.
Halfway decent Drumpf supporter?
By Belmont
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 5:44pm
Has one been seen in the wild?
Too bad
By Dot
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 12:59pm
His photo is online because of what he did. If he has alternate facts he can come forward. There are no laws preventing anyone from photographing him whether a police report was filed or not as per MBTA. It's too bad that train was filled with people afraid to get involved. Perhaps when it happens to them someday they'll reconsider the fact that if more people had just stood up and approached as a group it defuses men such as this who are hot headed and need to cool down.
Collective action
By Ari O
Mon, 01/23/2017 - 11:14pm
Guys, I know riding the T sucks, but if someone beats someone up and then calls someone else a liberal cunt, you don't ignore it, you beat the crap out of them and then sit on them until the cops show up so they can go to jail and Adam can append
innocent, etc
to the end of the Uhub report.
MMKAY?
(PS if Richard Spencer ever rides the T, you punch him, because he's a nazi, and you always punch a nazi.)
Some say his face is being punched to this very day.
By tachometer
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 12:22am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6G4wljB4jE
So many remixes to choose from,
By erik g
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 7:39am
but my heart will always belong to this one. Stick with the classics, I say.
Uh
By erik g
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 7:34am
I know these kind of stories bring out a little of the Internet Tough Guy in all of us, but: I ride the Orange Line all the time, and am 6'5" and not of slight frame. If someone on a train car with me is unhinged enough to start a physical fight with someone, undeterred by witnesses taking video with their smartphones, I'll film it, sure, but I'm not going to go after the guy. The kind of people who scream pro-Trump nonsense at spectators are also the kind of people who carry guns because government tyranny something-something. Not my circus, not my monkeys. The Transit Police now have clear pictures of the guy, and I'll bet you a Galway chicken dinner that they have this dude in custody before the week is out.
So you wouldn't step in to stop a beatdown?
By Keith
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 8:59am
So you'd just watch a fellow human get the shit kicked out of him? Guess what my friend, just because Ringling Bros closed down doesn't mean that you ain't involved. What happens if he turns on you just because you are filming it? I think you'd want some stranger to step in and help you from getting a beating. Step up.
something you don't understand
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:13am
When bystanders try to insert themselves in a fight, it very often ends badly.
The best option is to do what they do in football: groups of people pulling them apart.
This sounds like it happened very fast.
Help in ways that actually help, intervene if it's safe to do so
By lbb
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:08am
The original account stated that bystanders did pull the assailant off after he attacked the victim and knocked him onto the woman who reported this. This, apparently, didn't take a lot of fight out of the guy, and he showed plenty of willingness to continue acting out. In that case, most bystanders don't have the skills to handle the situation. We all could probably do more to develop those skills before ending up in this situation, but if it's happening in front of you...no, all the good will in the world doesn't make you capable of taking down a sociopath. I don't advocate that everyone go sign up for fight lessons, but we probably would be well served if more people learned de-escalation skills and situational awareness. A combination of those two might well have headed this off at the pass. Remember that the attacker may be deranged and antisocial, but that doesn't make him incapable of seeing what's in his own best interest: understanding that the cops will come and he will spend the night in jail has a remarkable cooling-down effect. And of course, "situational awareness" means taking our faces out of our phones, and not burying them deeper when there's signs of trouble. Again, self-interest: ignoring a problem doesn't mean it won't land in your lap, literally.
Problem is, it's never safe.
By dmcboston
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 12:48pm
Last week the BPD got kudos for taking a pistol away from someone that they had every right to shoot. Ya, a Boston cop or MBTA, even if off duty could have taken this guy out in a second.
Here's the problem...an average person, even one in good shape, jumps in and Mr. Problem Dude pulls a knife and all of a sudden you're in over your head. Don't count on your fellow passengers if that happens.
She says, "I asked bystanders to take pictures of the assaulter, but didn't see anyone doing so..."
What bugs me about this assault is the lack of third party video. Almost every confrontation these days is surrounded by a crowd of live-streaming smartphone users. Here's a Globe article:
http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2013/03/20...
When you see something going on, the first thing you see is a whole bunch of folks standing around holding smart phones.
Maybe some other vids will show up. They'll have audio as well as video.
Nazi?
By nightmoves
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 7:35am
1. The nazis hate him. He's an ethnostate guy, like Malcom X and Muhammad Ali (people the left reveres), and the Jewish people in Israel.
2. Violently attacking people for political reasons is terrorism. You are pro-terrorism.
3. Communists advocate for a system that killed far more than fascism.
2. Violently attacking people
By erik g
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 7:40am
"Attack" is such an ugly word. I prefer to think of it as an alt-rebuttal.
Mindless rationalizing
By nightmoves
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 8:15am
Not an argument
You seem nice.
By erik g
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 7:46am
On the off-chance you actually want to have a discussion, and not frothily repeat Mr. Spencer's completely-absurd "no liberals are the REAL fascists" talking points, I'll repost the most salient analysis of The Punchening that I've seen:
I'm a saint
By nightmoves
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 8:04am
TLDR "Use violence when all your weak arguments have been disproven."
Multiple members of my family were killed by communists. Based on your flawed logic I can attack Lenin/Stalin worshiping lefties.
Sure.
By erik g
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 8:15am
As soon as they start threatening genocide against you, then absolutely I support you punching any Stalinists who are publicly calling for ethnic cleansing. You let me know when you see any, and I'll show up with you. We should always punch Nazis in the face.
There is an error in your thinking
By nightmoves
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 8:50am
1. RS has not advocated, condoned, or used violence at all, much less threaten genocide. RS is an identitarian, he has disavowed Hitler, National Socialism, and genocide on countless occasions
2. Noted commie George Ciccariello is an avid proponent of European genocide, along with Tim Wise and Noel Ignatev. Here is a group of commies at Harvard advocating for the genocide of Europeans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC-Cqkq6zWc
Nope, not on this site
By adamg
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:06am
Spencer's a Nazi. Period.
Not an argument
By nightmoves
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:11am
Period.
Some things really aren't worth arguing about
By adamg
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:18am
Let me repeat what I just said: Spencer is a Nazi. What the fuck do you think "identitarian" means, anyway? It's alternative-truth for "Nazi." He supports a white-only US, to the point of forcing non-whites (which in his punk little mind includes Jews) out of the country. He runs a Web site that has called for killing all blacks.
He's a Nazi. The only thing that makes him different is his stupid haircut.
Oh, did I mention he's a Nazi? Because he's a Nazi. The only real question is whether that makes it OK to punch him.
Aww, man
By erik g
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:26am
I was going to mine that thread for bon mots all day, and now you've outed my source.
Might want to do some more research
By nightmoves
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 10:33am
1. This is just wrong. He hasn't done any of that. If there was any real evidence confirming these points please cite.
2. Openly promoting violence is a can of worms the left shouldn't open. Any notion of moral high ground is lost.
You Need Look No Further Than His Own Website
By BlackKat
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:51am
Which I hesitate to link here as it gives it potentially more traffic.
http://www.radixjournal.com
*Adam please feel free to remove the link if you have similar reservations.
Added a nofollow tag
By adamg
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 10:57am
So at least he won't get any Googlejuice from the link.
Here's his old rag, Alternative Right
By erik g
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:52am
Asking the hard questions: Is Black Genocide Right?
(Note to all would-be-clickers: this is a link to an archival of the story, which has since been scrubbed from the net. AFAIK, this will not put advertising click revenue in the hands of any actual Nazis. Adam, feel free to delete if you don't even want third-hand white nationalism mentions on your site, but the guy asked)
Pro-tip
By erik g
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:23am
Defending Nazis is shitty enough, but let me suggest that doubling down on it, and then glibly dismissing the opinion of the guy who runs the site (and has a whole lot of skin in this fight), is an even worse idea.
Now you're concern trolling?
By nightmoves
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:35am
Oy vey.
You're my favorite kind of slinger of alternative facts, sm42:
By MC Slim JB
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 10:55am
the smug douchewad who when confronted with actual facts, just keeps repeating, "No, nuh-unh."
Kinda like Orange Julius Caesar, who fritters away endless hours trying to puff up his fragile ego with lies about how many people didn't vote for him and didn't show up to cheer his inauguration, when he should be Presidenting.
Dry up and blow away, you ridiculous waste of time and Internet bits.
You are taking time out of
By Kinopio
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:15am
You are taking time out of your day to defend a piece of garbage. He is a white supremacist and apparently you are fine with being on the same side as him. Pretty messed up. If you are excited for Trump being president then you and this nazi turd have at least a good amount in common so perhaps you should rethink your life choices.
I'm on the side of freedom
By nightmoves
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:38am
He has said himself the concept of racial "superiority" is dumb.
And yet ...
By adamg
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:44am
He's still believes in racial separation and Pepe the frog (you may recall he was in the process of explaining that when he was punched).
He's a Nazi.
Along those lines
By nightmoves
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 10:18am
Since Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali promoted racial separation they must be nazis too. How does Israel's racial separation jive with your narrative?
Are you being dumb on purpose?
By adamg
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 1:15pm
Malcom X and Muhammad Ali have no active role in current events. You know, being dead and all.
As for Israel, Netanyahu is basically Trump but with a higher IQ. And if you knew anything about Israel, which your statement suggests you don't, you'd realize that Israel, for all of its issues and contradictions, in fact, is pretty multicultural. There are black Jews. There are Arabs with full citizenship (and even seats in the Knesset). But, honestly, a blog focused on Boston isn't really the best place to debate the realities of Israeli politics. Why, it'd be like wasting time on a Boston blog failing to prove that a Nazi isn't a Nazi.
Not sure our founding fathers
By me
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 12:06pm
envisioned Freedom to Ignore Facts as being a pillar of our country.
Sorta disagree with some of your quote
By lbb
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:16am
I agree with the thrust of the comment you quoted, but I disagree that the purpose of etiquette is "maintaining an unjust social order". In a world where the purpose of etiquette is misunderstood, it may be used as a tool (or a weapon) to achieve that end, but that is not its purpose. Its purpose has much more to do with kindness and people being able to live together harmoniously, and unless you're distorting and humpty-dumptying the meaning, "harmoniously" doesn't mean "everyone shuts up while drunken racist uncle holds forth at Thanksgiving". At that point, etiquette has already been violated, by drunken uncle. It's only those who don't understand what etiquette is who believe that it requires the false politeness of giving room at the table to a racist.
You don't punch Richard Spencer for his political reasons
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 10:23am
You punch him for being a Nazi.
The Illinois Nazis...
By dmcboston
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 1:04pm
...had the right to march through Skokie. I think they eventually wound up in Chicago proper. Hey, they had that right. Free speech and all.
But still...
[img]http://i.imgur.com/UwO66ay.jpg[/img]
Illinois Nazis
By roadman
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 1:29pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTT1qUswYL0[/youtube]
If the Nazis hate him?
By The Beer Guy
Wed, 01/25/2017 - 9:41am
Why were they organizing a march in Whitefish, MT in support of him?
Tough Guy Alert
By JPNative617
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 8:29am
Tough Guy Alert
Where are the Arch Angels
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 2:00am
Where are the Arch Angels when you need them?
They're still deciding which beret to wear.
By TommyJeff
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:29am
...
Is Adam new spokesman for T Police?
By O-FISH-L
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 2:23am
While I'll keep an open mind on the alleged incident, have the Transit Police or MBTA itself, both with plenty of spokesmen, issued a press release or is it just Adam asking folks to call Transit Police Detectives? We've seen all kinds of fake Trump related stories (MLK bust removed from Oval Office?) so I would treat this and all other claims with healthy skepticism. Trump won, our side is happy. It strains credulity that the joyful Trump crowd is causing violence. It was comical to be in Washington for the terrific inaugural events only to see liberals totally destroying a Starbucks, one of the most liberal corporations in the country. Clueless, but great comedy. The crowd at my hotel thoroughly enjoyed it.
Over the past year uhub has
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 6:20am
Over the past year uhub has lost much credibility. Many stories have no facts and are taken from random twitter accounts or by other informal means.
Not from Twitter
By adamg
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:04am
And not just some random thing that got thrown over my transom.
But if you really think I've only been doing this for the past year, you're either new or weren't really paying attention.
Over the past year uhub has
By roadman
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 10:17am
Over the past year uhub has
lost muchmanaged to retain its credibility. Unlike Boston dot com and other mainstream media, where many stories have no facts and are taken from random twitter accounts or by other informal means.FIFY
Are you a full time humorist?
By me
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 7:40am
Your alternate narrative is HILARIOUS!!
He's an Alt-Cop
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 11:52am
Dude's been caught out in his lies and completely discredited, but he keeps going on believing his own delusions.
Well fish, our side is not happy.
By TommyJeff
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 8:46am
And don't forget that a lot of us are also armed and know how to defend ourselves through training (though we don't drone on about nor advertise our past affiliations like some people on here).
Serious question though, did the crowd at your D.C. Best Western also thoroughly enjoy being outnumbered 3 to 1 the next day with the ACTUAL majority in this country?
Your days (and this administrations) are numbered my dear, authoritarian, internet nutcase. "Thoroughly enjoy" them while you can.
Protestors vs. Criminals
By O'Really
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 8:53am
I was in DC...there's a difference between protesters and outright criminals, and those who want to discredit the movement willingly conflate the two.
Did you watch the Starbucks video? Those guys weren't liberals or protestors - they were flat out anarchists. They don't give a damn who's in the White House. They don't want a White House. They want no order.
"there's a difference between protesters and outright criminals"
By lbb
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 4:27pm
Not if some people have anything to say about it.
Amazing
By Michael
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:12am
"Trump won, our side is happy"
Yeah, your Dear Leader's face is a picture of joy at all times, isn't it
You are right. The
By Kinopio
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:21am
You are right. The inauguration was comical. The pathetically few people who attended was comical. The nazi Trump supporter crying after getting punched was comical. Three Doors Down being the best band Trump could book was comical. The fact that Bruce Springsteen played for Obama last week and Trump couldn't even get a Springsteen cover band to play was comical(I thought Trump was a great negotiator?) I suppose an orange clown being sworn in as president was comical in a way.
Trump blew $200 million on a sparely attended party. Then he lied about how many attended. Then a day later millions of people on every continent took to the streets and peacefully marched, because Trump is so awful that only he could inspire that many people to protest against him.
I LOL'ed.
By dmcboston
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 1:11pm
"Trump blew $200 million on a sparely attended party."
Hey, it might be easy to spot O-FISH at the inauguration at this link. It's from CNN, so you know it's legit. It shows the sparsely-attended inauguration, so it should be easy. It's called the gigapixel photograph. Quite amazing.
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/01/politics/tr...
Great pic. Caught Notorious RBG napping. NOTE: Pic here is a small jpg.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/e54uCEy.jpg[/img]
But, but...
By bosguy22
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 2:11pm
People got their earlier when Obama was sworn in!
"Trump blew $200 million on a
By roadman
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 4:35pm
Three words - Tax write off.
Fish - you unwittingly make a good point.
By Daan
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:30am
The phrasing of your post is my side - your side. Liberals destroy a coffeeshop belonging to one of the most liberal corporations in the nation.
What you're helping everyone see is that Trump philosophy is based on a premise that there are only two sides to any issue: with us or against us, Republican or Democrat, conservative or liberal, black or white.
What Trump misses - and what mosts extremists miss - including extremist conservatives, is that reality is not black and white, my way or the highway, with us or against us.
But in a reality defined by Trump everyone is on one side or another. That is false; that is an illusion; that is a fantasy. It is immature both psychologically and spiritually.
Of your claim that liberals destroyed the Starbucks store: How do you know liberals did? Did you ask the people who caused the destruction whether they consider themselves liberal? Why do you make that assumption? There are many people who do not consider themselves to be anywhere on the political spectrum. Where politics are concerned they are apathetic. The people who attacked the Starbucks store could very well be apolitical. They could simply be opportunists ready to get some quick cash via a B&E.
Your claim of straining credulity that anyone from the Trump crowd would commit violence makes not sense. Which crowd? All supporters of Trump, even one's who voted for Trump but also abuse family members, the crowd at the Inauguration? A crowd of pretty Trump supporters at a Ball? You probably did not see the video of Trump supporters trying to bribe people to disrupt the Inauguration by preventing traffic from moving on bridges in D.C.? The folks offering the bribes were Trump supporters.
Hmmmnnn...
By dmcboston
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 1:14pm
"What you're helping everyone see is that Trump philosophy is based on a premise that there are only two sides to any issue: with us or against us, Republican or Democrat, conservative or liberal, black or white."
You didn't stay for the Inaugural speech, I take it.
Okay, I'll bite
By thetrainmon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:39am
Remove the "Trump" part and what you essentially have is a fight between two grown men on a train. You'd be naive to think there aren't numerous fights like this that amount to nothing--egos bruised more than anything else. Yes, I know in this case the woman had her glasses broken and the alleged victim fell on top of her so there's a little extra to this particular alleged event, but c'mon. Press release? I'm sure it'll be all over the MBTA website shortly . . .
As Chuck Todd politely reminded Kellyanne Conway (or at least tried to) this past Sunday on "Meet the Press," yes, multiple news sources jumped the gun on this particular non-story, but it was quickly rescinded . . . unlike her boss's "He's not American!" personal vendetta that went on for over three years.
Violence? No. No need for violence ever. And just for the sake of argument, too cowardly to actually show their faces in general--instead leave KKK flyers outside people's houses (North Framingham) or a threatening notes in someone's mailbox (Natick).
Again, no need for violence, but, how did we go from an alleged attack on a subway in Boston to protesters in Washington, DC? Dozens of protests, including the one in Boston, were rather peaceful, so why do some knuckleheads in DC (or elsewhere) speak for an entire movement? Where have I heard that before ??? . . .
Well, can't blame him
By dmcboston
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 1:54pm
"unlike her boss's "He's not American!" personal vendetta that went on for over three years."
[img]http://i.imgur.com/KHUOtUt.gif[/img]
"Press release? I'm sure it'll be all over the MBTA website shortly . . ."
Not yet.
Suspect will be captured sooner if word gets out
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:50am
So you better hide. Or warn your drinking buddy to hide.
You know what was even more beautiful?
By Miaow
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 10:49am
Being at the march in DC on Saturday. Where we far outnumbered those at the inauguration.
That, and
By SwirlyGrrl
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 11:53am
Being at one of the marches in several cities where people overwhelmed the streets in solidarity against retrograde bullcrap.
More people marched in each rally in Seattle, Boston, Denver, Chicago, Austin, LA, NYC, and Atlanta than attended the inaugural.
The joyful Trump crowd?
By tachometer
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 11:41am
A campaign centered around whipping up anger at foreigners, anger at government, anger at corporations, etc. all of the sudden has become joyful? Those blinders must be getting heavy at that size.
Here we go...
By Daisy
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 6:52am
Ever notice how any time a person of color is photographed and accused of doing a horrible crime and its posted on Uhub, the comments start pouring in to "lock that animal up," or "he should never see the light of day again," no if, ands or buts. On the other hand when a White guy is photographed and accused of doing a heinous crime, all the comments you see are either victim-blaming, question the accuser of what they did wrong or should've done differently, or assumes the story is fake.
No I'm not "pulling a race card;" this is what I've noticed for a long time. Yes I'm a person of color so it stings and makes me disappointed but sadly I'm not surprised. Listen, a dirtbag is a dirtbag no matter his race or views. His behavior should not be tolerated or excused. End of story.
Please research Inherent Bias and think about what your uninformed initial reactions are before you post. They read ignorant.
Really?
By lbb
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:22am
I don't think most of the comments here are either victim-blaming or state that the story is fake (Fish blows hard, but he's one very loud, very confused, and probably very racist person), but maybe I'm wrong. Not asking you to do extra work on this, but if you feel like calling them out, I'd be happy to hear. As to the rest, I can see where I and others may have gone off into a tangent (talking about intervention and skipping right over the actual crime in question). So, I'll cop to that and I apologize. In my defense, I guess I'd say that to me this is such an unequivocal situation and the perp is so clearly in the wrong that I didn't think it needed to be said. But I do know what you mean about the "animal lock him up" bullshit. That does happen here.
This has got to be
By Waquiot
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 10:25am
The stupidest comment posted related to this article, and that is a tough honor to get.
One of the earliest comments was by someone who said that bystanders should have beat the crap out of this guy. The assumption is that they guy deserves to be in jail. But sure, point out a comment where people blamed the victim and I will redact my award to you (or heck, I'll bestow it on myself.)
I'm from the crowd that wants
By Ahab
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 12:35pm
I'm from the crowd that wants to do away with political correctness. If it acts like a scumbag and treats others like a scumbag, then it is. Shit comes in all hues. Protestors have the right to protest albeit I wished they weren't so fed by the media. The same media that tainted whatever credibility the Democratic Party had left with Sanders. Maybe next election, really become more of a grassroots entity as oppose to listening to politicians who support countries in the Middle East that commit atrocities against gays, women, and fund terrorism. I'm looking at Clintons with Morrocco and our mayor with the deal he made with the Saudi-funded Qatar Airlines.
"I see on the menu that the
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 1:10pm
"I see on the menu that the chicken sandwich has tomato, which is a terrible topping - ergo I will happily eat the pile of human shit slapped on bread, instead!"
That's not a good rebuttal to
By Ahab
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 6:17pm
That's not a good rebuttal to my statement. You do realize that the DNC belligerently sabotaged their candidates all for Hillary,right? So these protestors can protest a multitude of things but the fact is, they're not attacking the real menace here:the media. You can only punch a Nazi in the face so many times but the media will continue to guide and dictate all your votes,liberals. Same way they made way with the Occupy Movement (which could have been amazing). But once you get looney Hollywood liberals pretending as if their lives revolve similar to yours (when they have access to better doctors and $),then your objectives are moot to spectators such as myself.
Its becoming more common
By Ambidextrous Andy
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 8:34am
Your once well run website is on the verge of falling apart. Just like the apoarent story of the lady on the Weymouth highway enforcing immigration laws this story is nonsense also! You shouldn't be such a sore loser! I'd say if anything, a fight occurred between two parties and the man who wasn't a minority won therefore its jump on the bandwagon and call the white man a rascist! As T rider's we've all seen incidents and I find it extremely hard to believe that this apparent incident ended like this without any intervention. You should verify the credibility of your stories before you shame them by calling them a racist on the web sir.
Thank you sir
By adamg
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:10am
I'll give your anonymous advice the consideration it deserves, sir.
Damn
By erik g
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:29am
Adam is throwing shade like
[img]http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ztSKD3hb8NI/UYyC...
I know...
By cybah
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:54am
Adam is in rare form today.. he must be stuck at home because of the ice :-D But BRAVO!!!
But seriously this is some serious:
[img]https://media.giphy.com/media/VHh8vqt8wldhm/giphy....
(and this is my favorite GIF now)
The article never called him
By Kinopio
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:27am
The article never called him a racist. Stop making crap up like Trump does. It simply gave a statement provided by a witness. You think there aren't racist incidents happening in 2017 on the T and elsewhere? The president has a 40+ year history of being openly racist. It is very well documented if you are ever interested in learning some facts.
For a group that incessently calls people snowflakes...
By TommyJeff
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:32am
You sure are a sensitive bunch, ain't ya?
Between what stations did this happen?
By KJ
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 8:34am
Wanted to add some text before sharing on FB.
Train to Forest Hills
By adamg
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:10am
Guy got off the train at State, so somewhere between North Station, Haymarket and there.
(T) LAND
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 8:41am
Nothing like being stuck in a steel box with the doors locked and a political debate erupts with a diverse audience packed like rats in a cage and the Trump word is shouted and fists start flying. I have a feeling this was not the first time and it sure won't be the last time.
Thank you U-Hub
By SoBo-Yuppie
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 8:47am
for posting this.
need to bring awareness to this racism. (did i just type that in 2017... sigh.....)
can we please deport this
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:00am
can we please deport this asshole to the third world that is rural Mississippi where he'll be happier and none of us have to deal with his shit.
Might want to hold off on that
By Michael
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:19am
A lot of the South is recovering from storm damage and wondering why the federal government suddenly isn't answering their phones, so they might be too busy to take on refugees
ha!
By cybah
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:27am
That link made me smirk this morning.. "you reap what you sow" kinda comes to mind. Thanks!
ignorant
By Ishmael Jones
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 11:25am
I was determined to stay out of posts regarding political ideologies but this is a completely ignorant statement. "You reap what you sow'...who reaps it? I am betting you've never been to Hattiesburg. My wife and I went through there last April because we were affected by a book written by Gordon Martin Jr., an acquaintance of ours, who died a few months ago unfortunately. His book, "Count Them One By One: Black Mississippians Fighting For the Right To Vote" recounted his experience as a, well read the link:
http://www.upress.state.ms.us/books/1326
The people he interviewed and their relatives are the people who are reaping the affect of the tornado. I am sure they or their relatives were not Trump voters, and the people we met in our brief stay there were nice people, no matter who they voted for.
I know you probably don't mean this, but this and Adam's response to someone that he went to Gatlinburg once and implies he judges southern people by that experience. Please think a little deeper.
Thanks
By cybah
Wed, 01/25/2017 - 12:20am
Thank you for that fine comment summing up something about me that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about, because you don't know me.
I lived in deep south for many, many years before I moved to Boston. I've been all across those southern states, from Louisiana to South Carolina and every state in between. Trust me, I've talked to alot of people down there over years when I lived in that region. But I bet you didn't know that, nor do I even think you care. You're just here to attack people and call them ignorant based on your assumptions.
So please take your ignorant assumption, fold it four corners, and shove it up your ass, because you're the ignorant one making comments about a person you have no fucking clue about or where they've been in their life.
Seriously, go fuck yourself. You have no idea about me, who I am, what I'm about, and where I've been in my life.
Why so prejudice? The south
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 11:23am
Why so prejudice? The south is all racist is what you implied and is a very incorrect broad assumption. Sorry Trump won but you need to relax.
I think he meant red state voters
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 3:04pm
He never said racist but if you are now clamoring for federal assistance after voting for someone who vowed to cut it (and healthcare and the federal payroll and...) it's ironic. Federal assistance is higher in those red states btw.
Red state voters
By Irma la Douce
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 5:42pm
You know how some people living in our glorious enlightened blue state actually voted for Trump? The same principle works in reverse in red states, some people actually voted for another candidate. Are they reaping what they've sown?
Clearly the solution is some
By anon
Wed, 01/25/2017 - 7:43am
Clearly the solution is some kind of UN Refugee Assistance - we'll smuggle the blue voters out of their Randian hellholes, to be replaced with assholes like the fine gentleman in the story. Let the red states rot.
Is there some other part that I didn't read?
By Gary C
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:12am
This is NOT a Trump-bashing story.
This is NOT a story about racism (there was no mention that the fight was racially tinged.)
This is NOT a story about which system of government is better.
Thanks
By adamg
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 9:25am
I see two issues here: One is jerks being more emboldened by the current political environment to act on their inherent stupidity (yes, guys have been getting into fights on the T for a long time, what's new is the "Trump's America" thing; hence my Trumpland tag for this story). The other is the fact that a second victim of this fight (let's not forget her broken glasses and scratched face) may have been the only one to photograph this.
If you say so
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 10:05am
I guess those people need to remember THE RULE: a White Guy on the Internet has to APPROVE of racism being called racism before it is racism.
Perhaps not, Gary, but it's
By tcf098
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 10:11am
Perhaps not, Gary, but it's also not terribly difficult to read between the lines.
An older white male who's perfectly comfortable in dropping the "Liberal C*nt" line in general public – and just finished pummeling a black man – was more than likely racially motivated.
Maybe I'm stereotyping or jumping to conclusions, but the evidence presented deduces to one likely outcome.
Trump is openly hostile to women
By erik g
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 10:14am
So attacks that end with misogynistic statements, and the attacker openly acknowledging that he's happy that his new commander-in-chief feels the same way about women, qualify as Trumplandia.
Not so fast...
By Neal
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 1:14pm
We have no idea as to whether that guy is in the military. If he is, yes, the president is his commander in chief. If not, he isn't. (Yeah, I know I'm being pedantic, but I hate the cavalier misuse of that term).
cavalier*
By thegirl
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 12:53pm
/pedantic mic drop
I will say, though, that we both are calivers.
I don't waste my pedentantry on misspellings and typos
By Neal
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 1:19pm
Because they can be edited.
Cantilever
By dmcboston
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 1:33pm
Although, I don't want to go out on a limb here...
The worst of humanity.
By tcf098
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 10:07am
I'm beyond flabbergasted by the rise of the disgusting "Alt-Right", quasi-Nazi resurgence in America... all because we have a President whom they feel support their ideals.
Did these people skip history class? Do they forget what happened in the 1940's?
DO THEY FORGET THEY LIVE IN THE COUNTRY THAT ALREADY ERADICATED NAZISM ONCE??
In other news, it appears U-Hub has a new popular post subject. Bicycles have reluctantly given up their crown to Trumpland.
We'll have four more years of
By anon
Tue, 01/24/2017 - 3:16pm
We'll have four more years of this, folks... what a shame. Fortunately, nearly 200,000 women, men and children in the Boston area came out strong against this kind of hate and bigotry this past Saturday.
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