Poll: We like recreational pot, don't like charter schools, can't stand idea of slots near Suffolk Downs

By adamg on Tue, 09/13/2016 - 8:18am

WBUR self reports on its 2016 referendum polling. Also, we like the idea of banning tiny cages for chickens.

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I'm impressed

By Roman
Tue, 09/13/2016 - 9:55pm

I certainly couldn't have thought of an incisive rebuttal like that.

Thank you once again for showing us all how clever you are. I stand in awe at this, surely the best, application of an MIT education in the twin arts of logic and rhetoric.

No. They're chickens, they

By DTP
Wed, 09/14/2016 - 9:01am

No. They're chickens, they don't have souls

And what exactly is a 'soul', and how do you determine if an organism has one? Do dogs and cats have souls? Because if not, then I'm sure you'd be fine with a puppy spending its entire life in a tiny cage where it can barely move, right? If you're not okay with that, but they don't have souls, then surely that can't be a valid argument, right?

When you tell me how to build a soul detector

By Roman
Wed, 09/14/2016 - 9:03pm

and specify its error rates I'll have this discussion with you. Until then, I assert that souls are things that only humans have. My mind may be swayed by a radio signal from the sky, and even then I'd be skeptical.

Where's your proof...

By Michael Kerpan
Wed, 09/14/2016 - 9:56pm

... that humans have souls?

It's an article of faith

By Roman
Wed, 09/14/2016 - 10:07pm

unless you know something I don't. But then "knowing anything" might not be that meaningful...See what happens when you start treating basic axioms like they're micraggressions?

Show me on the doll where the chicken touched you

By Kaz
Thu, 09/15/2016 - 10:15am

What does having a soul have to do with treating animals with a bit of respect? And if you're really all that buggered about soul-less things not needing to be given any mind, then consider the well-established fact that treating the animals better means the quality of their meat and byproducts goes up.

The only argument for continuing to factory farm animals in shitty conditions is price and I believe that's a local minimum, as in, the price could be as low or lower even with better conditions if we only forced companies to innovate efficiencies into new processes that took into account those requirements of better conditions.

Companies are great at finding the cheapest way to meet all the rules. It's what they do. It's the best outcome from capitalism. However, they'll also do everything they can to wipe out the rules or prevent them from being put in place in the first place because it fits that same mantra. We have no idea what the next idea might be to treat animals better while simultaneously making more profit than they are now because they have found a deep well in the process versus price graph where you don't change process without a jump up in price. Let's fill that well in so they have to find a new one to sit in...one where the animals can sit...or stand next to them.

Well, you would believe that

By Roman
Thu, 09/15/2016 - 8:24pm

The only argument for continuing to factory farm animals in shitty conditions is price and I believe that's a local minimum, as in, the price could be as low or lower even with better conditions if we only forced companies to innovate efficiencies into new processes that took into account those requirements of better conditions.

Since you're a socialist who thinks magic can happen if only you impose more costs on people.

because they have found a deep well in the process versus price graph where you don't change process without a jump up in price. Let's fill that well in so they have to find a new one to sit in...one where the animals can sit...or stand next to them.

Prove it. Don't assert it. Who's making faith-based policy proscriptions now?

I'm for all 3

By anon
Tue, 09/13/2016 - 11:46am

And legalizing cannabis doesn't begin to go far enough. The DEA, all the federal, state, and local agencies that get BIG $ from our so-called War in Drugs (A COMPLETE DISASTER, SAME AS ALCOHOL PROHIBITION) are a Frankenstein monster that needs to be put down. Likewise, the manner in which big corporations and $ interests, in the case of the War on Drugs, the biggest drug dealers of them all, the mega pharmaceutical corps, need to be neutered to stop their fascist like control of our governments and society.

And no, I'm not a druggie, far left moonbat or far right wingnut.